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Federalist Paper #67

Posted by CKHustler on Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:45:43 PM
The Executive Department
From the New York Packet.
Tuesday, March 11, 1788.
HAMILTON

Federalist Paper #67

Alright, new topic on the Executive branch!!

"Calculating upon the aversion of the people to monarchy"

Here is where I put George Washington above the rest.  He could have been a king, yet he refused.  He could have kept the presidency for himself until his dying day, yet he refused.  What he did was exactly what was needed, at that time, for our government to turn out like it did.  Imagine had he run for a third term and died while in office.  Adams would have taken over and then Jefferson after that.  What would have happened after that though?  Jefferson had the popularity to continue and he may have been president for another 20 years or until his dying day.  Would we be the same country today?  All presidents before FDR stayed at the two term limit because Washington began with two terms.  Most of the time those best fit to lead are thrust into the position, rather than those striving for the position.  Reagan had to be talked into running for president by his friends and look how that turned out.  We need to find that person today that we know possesses the leadership qualities as well as the intelligence and integrity to lead this country.  Thrust them into power by vote! 

"in all the supercilious pomp of majesty"

HBO had a series on John Adams and at one point Adams tries to add a title to the Presidency, much like they did in Europe at that time.  I forget the exact names, but I thought that was interesting.  (Now, I haven't checked this on any other source, so take this for a grain of salt, but most of what they did in that show was pretty truthful so I figure it probably did happen.)  One thing about our government that had survived until now is that they were never above the people, but an extension of the people.  Many other governments around the world are not like that.  I do love being in a society where there is no noble class.  I suppose that is why the democrats have created class warfare in its place.

"It is impossible not to bestow the imputation of deliberate imposture and deception upon the gross pretense of a similitude between a king of Great Britain and a magistrate of the character marked out for that of the President of the United States."

This is what the conservatives have to deal with on a daily basis.  Some of the things being said being said in DC I simply laugh and think there is no way they actually believe what they are saying.  I look at this economic crisis and for anyone to say the CRA bill did not have a major effect is deliberately spewing biased views on the subject.  I look at Obama implementing these policies that are so far away from common sense that I feel he cannot possibly believe what he says.  A good tell should be the teleprompter.  Think to yourself, if you were going to make a speech on some economic policy and believed it to be the correct course of action, would need a teleprompter to remind you what to say?  If you actually feel passionate about your point of view there is no way you would need a teleprompter.  If I am ever asked a question on an economic policy I can give an answer without hardly thinking and my life isn't even focused on politics.  How can these career politics need a reminder of what they believe in?  Lying.  Now don't confuse this with giving a general speech.  Organization is important, but for Obama to be followed around by his teleprompter, that is a major tell for me.

"The President shall have power to fill up ?? VACANCIES that may happen DURING THE RECESS OF THE SENATE, by granting commissions which shall EXPIRE AT THE END OF THEIR NEXT SESSION.''

Can you think of another such part of the Constitution that has been ripped apart like this?  Anyone for the 2nd amendment?  How anyone can possibly believe the government has any right to try and remove guns is beyond me.  And let us not forget ammunition!!!  That will be very important as they will move on that first being it won't be as obvious.

Here is my paper on the 2nd Amendment if you choose to peruse through it:  http://educateyourself.blogtownhall.com/2008/06/29/the_right_to_bear_arms.thtml

I was surprised by this paper.  The whole second half was constituted to defiling a lie.

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke
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Federalist Paper #57

Posted by CKHustler on Monday, March 09, 2009 11:56:26 PM
The Alleged Tendency of the New Plan to Elevate the Few at the
Expense of the Many Considered in Connection with Representation
From the New York Packet. Tuesday, February 19, 1788.
HAMILTON OR MADISON

Federalist Paper #57

" that it will be taken from that class of citizens which will have least sympathy with the mass of the people"

I already went over this before the subject about the House of Reps even came up.  Too many lawyers running around up there.  Not enough problem solvers.

"obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society"

Wisdom?  Is insulting our best ally wisdom?  Virtue?  You call all this double talk hypocrisy virtue?  Bush at least acted Presidential, no matter what things you hated about him.  He did not lower himself to the bickering of the media.  He was cultured enough to know that sending back a gift is an insult.  Obama has no clue what he is doing.  What a travesty of a President.  We should also make sure he doesn't pull a Clinton and try to take the gifts given to the GOVERNMENT while he was in office.

"The most effectual one, is such a limitation of the term of appointments as will maintain a proper responsibility to the people."

Today we vote in people based on name recognition and because of this, our reps can pull off nearly anything while in office and the voters will not get rid of them.  Notice how long some of the most incompetent representatives stay in office.  Clearly there is something wrong here.

"No qualification of wealth"

See, here is another problem.  For any of these guys to run for an office, they must spend lots of money and it turns out that the wealthy have a great head start and with an already ignorant populace, that ground is nearly impossible to make up.  I am wondering how he came to the conclusion that this would not happen to be honest.  It is inevitable that the wealthy would eventually make their way to the top of this representative scheme.  Not only does money buy many things, but connections do as well.  In any case, this has happened in our society.

"would have more to hope from a preservation of the favor, than from innovations in the government subversive of the authority of the people."

Why is Obama trying to shove through all these bills without the public being able to properly criticize it?  He knows they are subversive of the authority of the people.  It seems to me that something like national healthcare, is an obvious failure.  Common sense just takes a look at all our government does and anyone with a head on straight can see they will not succeed in this venture.  I cannot see how Obama could see it differently than that.  To me he must know that it will be a failure, yet he wants the government to have more power over the people than they did before.  Is there any other reason?  If they take on national healthcare and it fails, which it will, we will be in a much worse situation for it and many more millions will be without.  Expand too much and everything falls, which leaves all without the benefits.

"that they can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society."

Well, well, well.  I see that the DC gun ban would go against this measure.  Congressmen can still carry guns if they choose, while us lowlife citizens cannot.  I am going to keep an eye out for that in the Constitution as well.  This is a classless society and to keep it one, all laws must pertain to everybody!  His following paragraph outlines his disgust for governments that do as our congress has.  Wow, would he be pissed today! hehe

"Is it supported by REASON?"

How many arguments did the liberals come up with about Bush that were not supported by REASON?  How many arguments did they make about Rush or Coulter or Malkin or Hannity etc etc.  How often do they even have arguments supported by reason?  I would take a gander that more likely than not, if they have a problem, it is not a reasonable one.  Lies are the majority of the crap coming from the left.  You see it here daily on TH with the liberal posters, stopping by to claim a lie, and running off afterwards.  The problem is people are easily manipulated and so they hear the same lie enough and they believe it.  This all leads back to the ignorance of the populace because an educated population would not allow this to continue.

Each and every counter argument that could be brought would go back to the people being ignorant of the people they raised to power.  A republic cannot survive with an ignorant population as they will eventually elect their downfall.  Had our founders known how incredibly uninformed we would be today, they may have chosen a different form of government, though they would have probably put up safeguards against education instead of doing that.  What a pickle we have gotten ourselves into by voting blindly.  Are we past the point of no return?

"All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" Edmund Burke
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