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Bob Barr gets my vote!

Bob Barr says we don't have to hold our noses to vote!  I suggest everyone pass around the info on him taking the dive in the libertarian party and lets get a conservative base out to vote in Nov!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/12/bob-barr-to-announce-presidential-plans/
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Part 2 of 4 Founding Father thoughts on today.

John Adams

Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814

 

We are on the brink of that suicide.  The plans coming out of the democrats would add trillions to our government spending.  How are they going to get that money?  Taxation.  No matter what they say on lowering taxes for us lowly middle class they will raise our expenses!  One of two things happen, they tax us directly or they tax the upper class very heavily which will force a couple things to occur.  First as many businesses that can leave, will.  Why would they stay and pay the taxes?  I wouldn't.  Secondly, the businesses that must stay will have to up the prices of the things they are selling which we lowly middle classers have to pay.  Lose; lose with the democratic economic policies.

 

That, as a republic is the best of governments, so that particular arrangements of the powers of society, or, in other words, that form of government which is best contrived to secure an impartial and exact execution of the laws, is the best of republics.

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

 

Impartial and exact execution of the law, are the lingering words from that quote.  Our judges are inputting their opinions everywhere they can stick them in.  In a previous post I went through the judges using foreign laws to make decisions.  This only opens them up to use their opinions even more and validating them in the process.  We must get back to a supreme court that will interpret the laws instead of making them.

 

Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest numbers of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

 

Happiness to the greatest number of persons is what is best.  Our government has a do something problem that hurts the people of this nation.  Their war on poverty helped nobody and hurt the people paying taxes.  What is a hate crime anyways?  Aren’t they all hate crimes?  Our government regulates so many things it takes away from the freedom and pursuit of happiness of the people. 

 

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Alexander Hamilton

 

The 4 principal reasons why a federal government was formed: "(1) The common defense (national security); (2) the preservation of public peace, as well against internal convulsions as external attacks; (3) the regulation of commerce with other nations and between states; (4) the superintendent of our intercourse, political and commercial, with foreign countries (foreign affairs)." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No.23, 1787

 

This is a very direct quote.  Our government has strayed so far from these 4 it’s beyond explaining.  The conservatives want to get back to the basics of what our government is supposed to do while the liberals want to extend it until we turn into the USSR and go bankrupt.

 

Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence.

Alexander Hamilton, Pacificus, No. 6, July 17, 1793

 

This is happening everywhere you look.  The post I previously posted, with the judges using foreign laws, is a very direct violation of what we should be doing with foreign influence.  This is also seen with all the political correctness going around.  We are accommodating each person in every possible way.  The English language is even under attack by the infiltrating illegal’s not knowing any.  I went to an ATM last weekend and bam, had to select English from a list.  Our foreign policies are run through the UN, who has no business telling us what we can and cannot do.  The democrats go on polls from other countries to run their foreign policies.

 

If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 21, 1787

 

This was only true for sales tax, which was how they collected taxes in those days.  This has a direct link to the trickledown effect the liberals claim does not work.  If we lower taxes on all, people have more money to spend and the businesses will have more with lower taxes and can sell at lower prices and make more from more sales due to the people have more and it’s a big snowball effect.  The income tax has no barrier of which Alexander Hamilton speaks of.  There is no way for the middle class people to avoid the income tax; therefore they can oppress us with the income tax.  This is happening little by little like a frog in heating water.

 

It is a singular advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit, which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end purposed — that is, an extension of the revenue.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 21

 

This is basically another way of saying the previous quote.  We should go back to sales tax only.  Lower the amount to like 10-15% and people will have much more money, as well as businesses being able to lower the prices.  Liberal logic is infallibly false.

 

Let us recollect that peace or war will not always be left to our option; that however moderate or unambitious we may be, we cannot count upon the moderation, or hope to extinguish the ambition of others.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 34, January 4, 1788

 

Here is where the liberals are complete and utter morons.  This war on terrorism was thrust upon us and we must respond.  We did not choose to enter the war, but rather Osama Bin Laden cast the first stone.  If the liberals would get out of the political war and let our soldiers get the job done we will win this war on terror.  How they cannot see they are aiding the enemy is beyond me.

 

The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, November 27, 1787

 

Whoa!!  Don’t the liberals spout that the government must jump start our economy?  How wrong!!  The private sector will always outperform the government when given the chance.  The cold war proved just that.  USSR had the government running commerce while the USA had capitalism.  Who had more money?  Ahem...WE DID!  I sometimes wonder if the liberals believe the lies they spout from the podium while giving speeches. 

 

There is no part of the administration of government that requires extensive information and a thorough knowledge of the principles of political economy, so much as the business of taxation. The man who understands those principles best will be least likely to resort to oppressive expedients, or sacrifice any particular class of citizens to the procurement of revenue. It might be demonstrated that the most productive system of finance will always be the least burdensome.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 35, 1788

 

The sentence of the man who understands...etc. is a perfect example of what the libs are doing today.  Oppressive taxes and/or sacrificing the wealthy for procurement of revenue.  The flat tax or sales tax should be moved into effect as to avoid the exact things he says in this quote.  The most productive system is always least burdensome.  Libs: can you believe the blasphemy!  Our government has lost all accountability for finances and we will continue to spiral downward until they start changing their spending habits.

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Part 1 of 4 Founding Father thoughts on today.

Ive went through a couple hundred quotes finding ones that apply to what we are going through today.  Our economy, regulations, Foreign affairs, etc etc.  They are as conservative as ever!  I have tried splitting them up by who made the quote and not by topic.  This way I can make a brand new opinion on a quote in which was similar to one 3 parts back haha.  Have fun with this!  BTW, if anyone wants to find some quotes, I used Founding Father Quotes

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." - John Quincy Adams, 6th President of USA.

This is my favorite quote of all-time.  So why not do it first?  This basically goes against all the liberals are.  They are essentially anti-religious people.  Just take a look at what the ACLU has accomplished!  Morals are also relative for them.  I read Hal and others on here everyday saying just that.  The ends justify the means and everything goes.  This also shows why our government is starting to flounder so to say.  The constituents are no longer a moral or religious people and are electing as such.  Our representatives are acting as such in office and that is causing many problems.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke 1729-1797

This one applies more to foreign affairs than anything today, though it applies to the average conservative as well.  First domestically:  The average joe has to get out and educate themselves to vote this election.  Most every issue that was voted on in 2004 and 2006 was voted on conservatively.  Why is that?  Though they believe in conservative values, people are being brainwashed into thinking liberals will do what they say.  Liberals are all talk, just look at universal healthcare...sure it sounds good until the IRS comes to take a little extra for your lazy neighbor to get healthcare.  The average person must educate themselves this election and start voting for the people that will ACTUALLY move this country in the right direction.  Foreign:  Liberals are up to letting Iran do what they want along with leaving Iraq, Ignoring North Korea etc etc.  We must act now before the terrorists gain enough power to create WW3.  Iran will not stop producing nuclear weapons and North Korea knows we are weak politically.  We must make a stand!

"...There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. ... Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing." - Daniel Webster, June 1, 1837

Well, the media does do a good job scrutinizing our politicians.  They must do it unbiased way to get the full truth out to the people.  This quote in a way goes back to the previous quote.  People are voting for a person because they have Charisma or are good at speaking.  I worry more about what was said!  College students are out in droves voting for Obama and they have no clue why!  Voters are not educating themselves and simply vote for what feels good much of the time.  I would put that under the negligence mentioned above. 

I am not a Virginian, but an American.
Patrick Henry, speech in the First Continental Congress, September 6, 1774

I am putting this one in here for all the hyphenated Americans.  At that time in history people were more proud of their state than their nation.  People now are more proud of being an African-American, or Asian-American or Indian-American than being an American.  I have decided personally to not call anyone by a hyphenated name unless they were born there.  People must be firstly proud to be an American.

There! His Majesty can now read my name without glasses. And he can double the reward on my head!
John Hancock, upon signing the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

I just had to throw this one in.  This shows how the founding fathers sacrificed for this country.  Most all of them were very wealthy people.  George Washington (with modified scaling of the dollar) was the richest president we have had.  He could have quelled the public outcry and lived out his life in peace, but he wanted the best for this country!  Our politicians are not of that type anymore.  They will do anything to stay in power no matter how it hurts the average American.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." Alexander Tyler (A Scottish professor)  1897

I have posted this up in another thread.  It is amazing how accurate this is accounting for us.  faith to being with...courage during the late to mid 1800s...liberty after the civil war building up...abundance of the 20's...selfish 60's....to the apathy of now and moving to dependence on the government with the current presidential candidates.  We are not a straight democracy, but it does apply to our country.

If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

This describes the liberals of today perfectly.  They are always finding a new way to take our money (for the children right?).  Our government has become a greedy government of which the founding fathers were
decisively against.  They gave the federal government very few powers for that exact reason.  The government is always punishing "big business" saying its for the little person.  Our country's industry only became the worlds most powerful during WW2 because of big business.  Our regulations on the big businesses are forcing them to leave to make a profit and many of them have moved to Asia.  This will only continue until our government removes internal regulations on US businesses.  As they leave it removes the jobs for Americans.  So while what is left they may make slightly more, many more Americans make much less or are out of work because of the laws.  Big businesses that do stay will always pass the cost onto the consumer.  Raising say the minimum wage will only make costs go up and the person making the new minimum wage will be able to buy nothing more, while the person making say $10 will be able to buy less.

For myself the delay [in assuming the office of the President] may be compared with a reprieve; for in confidence I assure you, with the world it would obtain little credit that my movements to the chair of Government will be accompanied by feelings not unlike those of a culprit who is going to the place of his execution: so unwilling am I, in the evening of a life nearly consumed in public cares, to quit a peaceful abode for an Ocean of difficulties, without that competency of political skill, abilities and inclination which is necessary to manage the helm.
George Washington, comment to General Henry Knox, March 1789

This is why he was such a great leader.  He didn't crave for power but had power forced upon him.  He had the interests of the people and not his personally gain at heart.  It is too bad we cannot have people of this character in office now because to get into office you must want to be there.  If only...

If we desire to insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.
George Washington, Annual Message, December 1793

This is why we must be able to act towards all terrorist country's with the utmost vigor.  If they know we will come after them for messing with us, they will not threaten us or our people.  They know their will be consequences for their actions.  As of today they know if they just hinder us enough our media will destroy us politically and then they have won.  We need a sense of American political strength around the world putting fear in the hearts of the enemy.

My anxious recollections, my sympathetic feeling, and my best wishes are irresistibly excited whensoever, in any country, I see an oppressed nation unfurl the banners of freedom.
George Washington, letter to Pierre Auguste Adet, January 1, 1796

This, was just a good quote I wanted to throw in. 


I hope to be able to put up another this weekend, if not it will probably be next weekend before I get part 2 up.
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Future posts

I am going to start a short collection of quotes from our founding fathers...I will input some writings too of course, or it wouldn't be my work.  I just wanted to let anyone know that just happened to check in.  Look for me to have at least one up this Sunday.
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