With the Supreme court decision to ALLOW us to keep our rights given to us, I thought I would write a little on what I think about the 2nd amendment using other important documents written around the same time.  The Supreme court is there to interpret the Constitution, not to legislate on it.  Therefore, I am going to prove what our founding fathers were thinking when they wrote the 2nd amendment. 

To do this I will first bring us to a time before we had written a Constitution.  A time before there was a United States.  A time where there was a small committee of 3 looking over a document called the Declaration of Independence.  I know its just another small document that doesn't have much to do with anything now right?(or so the libs may say)  hehe, but I am going to use it none the less.

I will scan down and find a paragraph that contains a mention of us securing our rights and what to do if government becomes destructive. 

"That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

Now, I think to myself.  How, if under any circumstances, would the people abolish a government that is becoming destructive, if we don't have arms to do it?  Throw pitchforks?  Maybe fling snowballs at them (for those of you who have seen John Adams haha).  Perhaps a club will do.  I think not.  The only way for the people to rise up and defeat the national government is to use arms.  The military would be much too strong to overcome without, and if the government is becoming destructive, I very much doubt they wouldn't be using the military to do their bidding.  To that point, I argue that Thomas Jefferson supports the people having arms to defend themselves from the government.  How could any sane person object to that argument. 

I now move to another of our founding fathers using yet again, a different such document than the Constitution.  Again, a time before televisions, a time before the Constitution.  The Federalist Papers have three such names in them and all of them did great things for our country.  Alexander Hamilton set a foundation of credit our country has built upon until today, James Madison Jr. was our 4th president and John Jay was our first chief justice.  All of which had a hand in the writing of the Constitution.  These are hardly people you can ignore when interpreting the intended meaning of our amendments.

I turn our time to Federalist Paper #28.  Written by Alexander Hamilton to the people of New York.  I will go straight to quotes:

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."

Here he speaks of the people needing to take to arms if congress or the President betray us.  Now, he speaks specifically of arms in this statement, so there can be no other means by which he says the people could overthrow the government, if need be.  We must rush tumultuously to arms...Tough to argue against that.  Again, any sane person could not possibly do so.

I now move onto the 2nd amendment itself.  Now, the parsing of the sentence in question is causing many of these problems.  I will try to prove why I think the way I do on this subject.

"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Here is how I interpret the law.

Subject, what its for, what it is, final solution.

Throughout the Federalist papers, PUBLIUS creates many sentences in which you have to parse them carefully and correctly to have the desired outcome of the sentence.  Reading the above paragraph you must be able to see that.  They use commas much differently than we do today on a regular basis, and that is what makes this so hard to interpret.  They constantly use them as sub-sentences or describing areas for the previous parse.  I think it is fairly obvious that the second portion is directed at the first.
A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...  It is describing what a militia is used for or why we need it.  For the security of a free state.  The third part is where many people have many different thoughts.  I believe it describes what a militia is.  A militia is the right of the people to bear arms.  Without that right, there would be no militia.  The third applies to the subject.  Since a militia is the right of people to bear arms, then the right of the people to bear arms, shall not be infringed. 
I for one believe the common sense interpretation makes perfect sense, but where people can skew the law, they will do so. 

Since the ruling came out that the 2nd applies to the individual, doesn't that mean that all federal gun laws are unconstitutional?  SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!!

The job of the Supreme court is to interpret the original meaning of the law, not create their new meaning of it!

Using other historical documents written by our founding fathers, along with the obvious meaning.  How can anyone argue that the 2nd amendment doesn't mean exactly what it says?  We get guns!!!

Sources:
Declaration of Independence
Federalist Paper #28

Isn't it obvious?

If were talking of a new party...The Crawfish has a great idea on its beginnings.

Party Platform and such can be found here:
http://constitutionalcrawfish.blogtownhall.com/2008/02/25/part_2_of_the_2008_american_tradition_party_platform.thtml

Now, I was thinking of an animal.  Republicans have elephant.  Democrats have donkey.  How about the good ole snake?
It was on our 'Don't Tread On Me' flags.  It will show the tenacity we intend to use when taking back our country.  What do y'all think?

Did anyone watch the O'Reilly factor last night?  Boy did he make these students look like fools.  And democrats say they aren't socialists!  pfft! Thats what I say about that! haha

What I did was search for liberal cars through google images.  I took the first ones I could find and posted them up.  They had to have multiple stickers and had to stand for things liberals stand for...such as peace, gays, impeach bush etc etc.  Now I wanted you to think what these pictures have in common.  I know they stand for something...but what thing is it that they lack on their cars?  This is something that is not a bi-partisan issue of any kind.  It is something that should be held high by all Americans.  Can you guess it?











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An American Flag!!!!!

Can you believe that?  Not one liberal car I found had an American Flag on it.  Amazing since they constantly say they want a better America, or that they support our troops.  It seems to me that they dislike America and would rather we merge into a global country.  See the American flag is not a symbol of Bush or any president.  It is a symbol of our country.  They clearly do not like the thought of a powerful United States of America!  What do you say?

Correction...I found one with one in there.  It is very faded...so in case you missed it...look again.

So while one does.  How come more don't?  What I said still stands.  It is a symbol of freedom around the world and they continue to hate America on the whole. 

Update:

Take a look again and if you thought "Support our troops" then you were correct.  Looking through I didn't see one!  Yet they will claim on every thread and every argument that they support them!  Rubbish!

So, today I was wondering how a person such as Obama could possibly be the candidate of a major party.  When I mean a person like Obama I am talking about a couple things I never would have thought would leave him as a running mate. 

Firstly his beliefs are so unbelievably like Jimmy Carter Im surprised anyone over 50 is voting for him.  We can't have our houses at 72?  How about if our government buildings aren't made out of marble or stone anymore.  I went to the Minnesota History Museum this weekend and the building is massive.  I could be exaggerating, but to say it took up half a city block might be about right.  The building is made out of stone and brick solid.  Then I get inside and marble walls and flooring.  Maybe they are afraid a tornado might hit, because if it did, I think that building might withstand an F5.  To make matters worse I, as a taxpayer, have to pay to get in.  So not only do I pay the employees and for the building, but I have to pay for parking and visitation of the very building.  But, Im getting off track, sorry. 
Continuing on...
The consuming attitude of this candidate is of the Jimmy era where we had lines at gas stations.  There is no pride of Americans, but only of how we can we can change everything about this country. 

Which leads me to my second point of his Pride and Respect for our country.  He refuses to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem.  Does he lack respect for our flag and country that much?  His free calling circle from Alltel is filled with anti-American terrorists and racists.  Not only is he buddy buddy with them, but he has provided pork for them as well.  Pfleger received $225,000 pork from Obama, so don't even say they aren't linked in any way, for you liberals. 

His very wife who probably shares his views, let slip through loose lips, shares the racist views of Wright.  Now that there is a black man up for president, and especially since its Obama, she is now proud of our country.  Is that all it took?  Our freedom of millions around the world:  $100    Her husband being up for president:  Priceless.....apparently haha.

As my last post said I  have started watching "John Adams" from HBO and it got me thinking on the sacrifice our founding fathers had to endure.  John Hancock has a quote from a previous post of mine which states:
"There! His Majesty can now read my name without glasses. And he can double the reward on my head!"
John Hancock, upon signing the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

These men were the richest and most powerful people in the colonies and didn't have nearly as much to gain as the average person.  They could have talked to England and asked for bribery if they muffed the rebels.  Would that not have been more advantageous for them?  Washington was the richest man in the country and to this day is known as the richest president we have ever had (modified worth of money of course).  So why would they stick their necks out?  They did what they knew was best for our country and the children of our country at the risk of their own lives.  Can anyone actually picture any one of our congressmen doing that for us today if needed?  Would they risk their power and money for the good of the country?  George Washington refused to be President when it was offered to him the first time.  He did not want a single ruler for this country, even if it was him!  Can you imagine, if given the option, Obama or McCain or any congressmen today refusing the presidency if they knew it would be good for our country?  I can't see it of any of them. 

I recently heard of the John Adams show on HBO and decided to check it out.  I thought it fairly good.  I haven't researched all that went on in that time frame to know enough to come to my own conclusion.  I thought it covered the US in a light not too bright or dim.  It seems to have been done without an agenda, but instead for entertainment and to tell the story.  I haven't watched that much and mainly scanned through it.  If you haven't checked it out I suggest you give it a shot.  To those of you who have watched it, what do you think of it?  As I said I haven't done enough research of my own on the subject, but perhaps one of you have and can educate me a bit. ; )

I just watched Harry Potter: The Order of the Phoenix today and I wanted to run something by people.  Is the liberal mindset that of Dolores Umbridge and the Ministry of Magic.  I mean wow, the similarities are uncanny.  Ignore all threats, incarcerate when possible all people against your mindset, and last but not least, brainwash the children! haha

These quotes are of James Madison.  Another founding father hero!  Once again another founding father against most everything the libs stand for!

James Madison

A just security to property is not afforded by that government, under which unequal taxes oppress one species of property and reward another species.
James Madison, Essay on Property, March 29, 1792

Oh Boy, does this sound a bit like what goes on today with progressive taxes?  Yet another quote of proof that shows what the founding fathers would think about our country today.

I own myself the friend to a very free system of commerce, and hold it as a truth, that commercial shackles are generally unjust, oppressive and impolitic — it is also a truth, that if industry and labour are left to take their own course, they will generally be directed to those objects which are the most productive, and this in a more certain and direct manner than the wisdom of the most enlightened legislature could point out.
James Madison, speech to the Congress, April 9, 1789

Hmm...such as say...Big oil?  The CEO of Shell this past week bashed Senator Leahy on this exact issue.  Check it out for yourself. http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_052108/content/01125107.guest.html  Rush had the clip right on the radio so you can probably get a clip of it there.
This quote goes against everything liberals stand for!  Liberals want to tax anything that makes a profit until they no longer make a profit.  Business will soon all leave if we continue down this path!

If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions.
James Madison, letter to Edmund Pendleton, January 21, 1792

Bingo! Our government promotes the "general welfare" only they don't really.  They keep the population undereducated by spouting historical lies in the classroom.  They teach self-confidence instead of problem-solving.  We spend 11 trillion on the war on poverty and it does nothing!  Um..hello!  I coulda told you that before you started!  Enable people to do nothing and you get more people that will do nothing!

If individuals be not influenced by moral principles; it is in vain to look for public virtue; it is, therefore, the duty of legislators to enforce, both by precept and example, the utility, as well as the necessity of a strict adherence to the rules of distributive justice.
James Madison, in response to Washington's first Inaugural address, May 18, 1789

by example!  we are sorely lacking on both sides of the isle here.  The libs want all moral principles removed from society.  Just check out the California judges who legislate from the bench against the people.

The house of representatives...can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as the great mass of society. This has always been deemed one of the strongest bonds by which human policy can connect the rulers and the people together. It creates between them that communion of interest, and sympathy of sentiments, of which few governments have furnished examples; but without which every government degenerates into tyranny.
James Madison, Federalist No. 57, February 19, 1788

Hmmm...like say the DC gun ban?  You know all congressmen still get to have guns around there...no one else gets to, so why would they need one?  These elitest scum really have to be taken out of power!

[D]emocracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.
James Madison, Federalist No. 10, November 23, 1787

Ouch.  This goes along with one from my first part with democracies lasting 200 years while going through bondage and whatnot.  Once the libs start taking away our freedoms...its all downhill for them after that.  Lets not go silently into the night!

[T]he government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like the state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government.
James Madison, speech in the House of Representatives, January 10, 1794

Charity isn't?  oh wait, but isn't that the role of the liberals government?  Social programs?  Stealing from Peter to pay Paul is exactly what they do.  Its legalized mafia!

Sorry it was a bit shorter.  Im a bit short on time around now.  I plan on putting up a good list of Reagan quotes.  That will have a good deal more humor in them as well.  On second thought.  I will go through some quotes by all the presidents leading up to now.  I have been reading some and it is amazing how against modern liberalism they are!  And they didn't even know what it was yet!

Bob Barr says we don't have to hold our noses to vote!  I suggest everyone pass around the info on him taking the dive in the libertarian party and lets get a conservative base out to vote in Nov!

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/12/bob-barr-to-announce-presidential-plans/

Thomas Jefferson was known as a liberal of his time.  When trying to construe what the intent was of our founding fathers the liberals will often turn to him as sometimes he is their saving grace.  Well, let’s open up Pandora’s Box on them and see what he is really about!

 

"Aided by a little sophistry on the words 'general welfare', [they claim] a right to do not only the acts to effect that which are specifically enumerated and permitted, but whatsoever they shall think or pretend will be for the general welfare." --- Thomas Jefferson 1825 to W. Giles.

 

Umm...could you be any more on target than this quote.  The liberals have done exactly this.  General Welfare for these people and those people and this person etc etc.  "I met this woman while campaigning...".  They do it to bribe votes out of the people and it is working.  Hopefully the American people wake up and Stalin isn't in charge from the years of idiocy oppressed upon us.  I suggest all who read this to check out this site: http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0403a.asp as it shows how Hitler came to power.  For the general welfare.

 

At the establishment of our constitutions, the judiciary bodies were supposed to be the most helpless and harmless members of the government. Experience, however, soon showed in what way they were to become the most dangerous; that the insufficiency of the means provided for their removal gave them a freehold and irresponsibility in office; that their decisions, seeming to concern individual suitors only, pass silent and unheeded by the public at large; that these decisions, nevertheless, become law by precedent, sapping, by little and little, the foundations of the constitution, and working its change by construction, before any one has perceived that that invisible and helpless worm has been busily employed in consuming its substance. In truth, man is not made to be trusted for life, if secured against all liability to account.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Monsieur A. Coray, Oct 31, 1823

 

This quote ties nicely to my previous post on judges using foreign laws.  They are not held accountable and quite possibly we aren't able to anyways.  Once they make it to office they have free reign.  They are an accomplice to the liberals trying to overturn our government for socialism. 

 

The great object of my fear is the federal judiciary. That body, like gravity, ever acting, with noiseless foot, and unalarming advance, gaining ground step by step, and holding what it gains, is engulfing insidiously the special governments into the jaws of that which feeds them.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Judge Spencer Roane, Mar 9, 1821

 

Here we have different wording for the previous quote.  There are multiple times throughout our history where the judges were legislating from the bench.  That is not their job!  They are there to interpret what the constitution is supposed to mean and uphold its meaning.  They are not there to declare what they want the constitution to mean!

 

For example. If the system be established on basis of Income, and his just proportion on that scale has been already drawn from every one, to step into the field of Consumption, and tax special articles in that, as broadcloth or homespun, wine or whiskey, a coach or a wagon, is doubly taxing the same article. For that portion of Income with which these articles are purchased, having already paid its tax as Income, to pay another tax on the thing it purchased, is paying twice for the same thing; it is an aggrievance on the citizens who use these articles in exoneration of those who do not, contrary to the most sacred of the duties of a government, to do equal and impartial justice to all its citizens.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

 

Ah...here we have (without his knowing do now) him directly speaking against having a sales tax and an income tax.  Why do we have such things anyways?  Isn't one tax enough to steal our money?  I tell ya, it’s a legalized mafia system we have.

 

If the present Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise in a body to which the people send 150 lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, & talk by the hour? That 150 lawyers should do business together ought not to be expected.

Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, 1821

 

This has happened all too often.  Just look at our current congress.  We have problems ailing this country, but they will do nothing except give themselves pay raises.

 

Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties which may make anything mean everything or nothing at pleasure.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, June 12, 1823

 

The Tax Code is 9451 pages long.  Can you imagine if that was construed by the ordinary rules of common sense?  This goes for something like the 2nd Amendment as well.  What is the common sense meaning of it?  Obviously to give the citizens the right to guns!  Our government has gone so far astray here it’s amazing.

 

No freeman shall be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands].

Thomas Jefferson, Draft Constitution for the State of Virginia, June, 1776

 

Ahem...what was that?  No Freeman?  debarred?  use of arms?  Is he telling us what the 2nd Amendment means here?  This is a draft of the constitution in Virginia.  You think he meant the same thing in the federal Constitution? 

 

Taxes should be continued by annual or biennial reeactments, because a constant hold, by the nation, of the strings of the public purse is a salutary restraint from which an honest government ought not wish, nor a corrupt one to be permitted, to be free.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Wayles Eppes, June 24, 1813

 

This means without “reenactments” of the taxes they would go away.  Now I don't want them to go away but it would make congress think about their constituents every time they voted for the new taxes.  This goes again to his voicing against oppressive taxes, of the kind we presently boast.

 

The multiplication of public offices, increase of expense beyond income, growth and entailment of a public debt, are indications soliciting the employment of the pruning knife.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Spencer Roane, March 9, 1821

 

Well, pruning knife please come!  This more or less predicts our government will have to change its ways and eliminate many government jobs.  I can't wait for them to end this spending spree and get back to what government is meant to do.

 

The truth is that the want of common education with us is not from our poverty, but from the want of an orderly system. More money is now paid for the education of a part than would be paid for that of the whole if systematically arranged.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Cabell, November 28, 1820

 

Aha!!!  Our education wastes an unbelievable amount of money!  If this system was handed over to the states we would have a much better education system that was also much more efficient and would cost less money.  What is so difficult to understand about this?

 

To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Joseph Milligan, April 6, 1816

 

Bada bing bada boom!  Another 10 star quote from, according to liberals, the liberal of his age!  Basically to take from a wealthy person because they are smart with their money and give to another person (which is exactly what the liberals do) is against my freedoms according to TJ!  Free exercise of industry is what our country was founded on and what we need to get back to!

 

[A] wise and frugal government... shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.

Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801

 

Free to regulate their own pursuits of industry.  Is that what Obama wants to do with his energy plans?  If he did we would have cheaper oil costs because of drilling in ANWR, coastlines and the Dakotas!  By TJ's standards we do not have a good government anymore!  They take bread from the mouth of the laborer to feed another who did no labor!  Our pursuits are obstructed at every turn and we must take them back!

 

Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, 1821

 

This is basically mocking communism.  If the government can order us how to do business we will soon want them to cover our every need.  Sound familiar to what is happening today?

 

Would it not be better to simplify the system of taxation rather than to spread it over such a variety of subjects and pass through so many new hands.

Thomas Jefferson, 1784

 

hehe...9451 pages of tax code.  It’s amazing what people can do when they are trying to suck you dry at every turn of your life.  I feel like there are a group of people sitting a room thinking on how they can add another tax….oh wait there is!  Our congress! haha

 

[T]he States can best govern our home concerns and the general government our foreign ones. I wish, therefore... never to see all offices transferred to Washington, where, further withdrawn from the eyes of the people, they may more secretly be bought and sold at market.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Judge William Johnson, June 12, 1823

 

Oohlala.  Sounds like he is against national healthcare, national education, national welfare system, national *insert anything pretty much*.  It sounds to me as I go through these that liberals are against pretty much everything we were founded on.  Not surprising

 

[W]hen all government, domestic and foreign, in little as in great things, shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another.

Thomas Jefferson, letter to Charles Hammond, August 18, 1821

 

Here we have it.  Washington dominates our country and it should not.  "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." 10th Amendment.  This is in direct violation of the 10th amendment.  Right now our government is doing the same thing mentioned above with "general welfare", but they are doing it in multiple places to gain power everywhere.  We need to take back our country and it starts with you!

Hope you enjoyed reading those quotes.  Personally I keep these in a text file on my desktop now just in case some idiot lib is spouting something stupid again and needs directing.  Even the liberals will take the founding fathers as words of truth for our country.  Fight them with these and they have nothing to fight back with.

 

John Adams

Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.

John Adams, letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814

 

We are on the brink of that suicide.  The plans coming out of the democrats would add trillions to our government spending.  How are they going to get that money?  Taxation.  No matter what they say on lowering taxes for us lowly middle class they will raise our expenses!  One of two things happen, they tax us directly or they tax the upper class very heavily which will force a couple things to occur.  First as many businesses that can leave, will.  Why would they stay and pay the taxes?  I wouldn't.  Secondly, the businesses that must stay will have to up the prices of the things they are selling which we lowly middle classers have to pay.  Lose; lose with the democratic economic policies.

 

That, as a republic is the best of governments, so that particular arrangements of the powers of society, or, in other words, that form of government which is best contrived to secure an impartial and exact execution of the laws, is the best of republics.

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

 

Impartial and exact execution of the law, are the lingering words from that quote.  Our judges are inputting their opinions everywhere they can stick them in.  In a previous post I went through the judges using foreign laws to make decisions.  This only opens them up to use their opinions even more and validating them in the process.  We must get back to a supreme court that will interpret the laws instead of making them.

 

Upon this point all speculative politicians will agree, that the happiness of society is the end of government, as all divines and moral philosophers will agree that the happiness of the individual is the end of man. From this principle it will follow that the form of government which communicates ease, comfort, security, or, in one word, happiness, to the greatest numbers of persons, and in the greatest degree, is the best.

John Adams, Thoughts on Government, 1776

 

Happiness to the greatest number of persons is what is best.  Our government has a do something problem that hurts the people of this nation.  Their war on poverty helped nobody and hurt the people paying taxes.  What is a hate crime anyways?  Aren’t they all hate crimes?  Our government regulates so many things it takes away from the freedom and pursuit of happiness of the people. 

 

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Alexander Hamilton

 

The 4 principal reasons why a federal government was formed: "(1) The common defense (national security); (2) the preservation of public peace, as well against internal convulsions as external attacks; (3) the regulation of commerce with other nations and between states; (4) the superintendent of our intercourse, political and commercial, with foreign countries (foreign affairs)." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Paper No.23, 1787

 

This is a very direct quote.  Our government has strayed so far from these 4 it’s beyond explaining.  The conservatives want to get back to the basics of what our government is supposed to do while the liberals want to extend it until we turn into the USSR and go bankrupt.

 

Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence.

Alexander Hamilton, Pacificus, No. 6, July 17, 1793

 

This is happening everywhere you look.  The post I previously posted, with the judges using foreign laws, is a very direct violation of what we should be doing with foreign influence.  This is also seen with all the political correctness going around.  We are accommodating each person in every possible way.  The English language is even under attack by the infiltrating illegal’s not knowing any.  I went to an ATM last weekend and bam, had to select English from a list.  Our foreign policies are run through the UN, who has no business telling us what we can and cannot do.  The democrats go on polls from other countries to run their foreign policies.

 

If duties are too high, they lessen the consumption; the collection is eluded; and the product to the treasury is not so great as when they are confined within proper and moderate bounds. This forms a complete barrier against any material oppression of the citizens by taxes of this class, and is itself a natural limitation of the power of imposing them.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 21, 1787

 

This was only true for sales tax, which was how they collected taxes in those days.  This has a direct link to the trickledown effect the liberals claim does not work.  If we lower taxes on all, people have more money to spend and the businesses will have more with lower taxes and can sell at lower prices and make more from more sales due to the people have more and it’s a big snowball effect.  The income tax has no barrier of which Alexander Hamilton speaks of.  There is no way for the middle class people to avoid the income tax; therefore they can oppress us with the income tax.  This is happening little by little like a frog in heating water.

 

It is a singular advantage of taxes on articles of consumption that they contain in their own nature a security against excess. They prescribe their own limit, which cannot be exceeded without defeating the end purposed — that is, an extension of the revenue.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 21

 

This is basically another way of saying the previous quote.  We should go back to sales tax only.  Lower the amount to like 10-15% and people will have much more money, as well as businesses being able to lower the prices.  Liberal logic is infallibly false.

 

Let us recollect that peace or war will not always be left to our option; that however moderate or unambitious we may be, we cannot count upon the moderation, or hope to extinguish the ambition of others.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 34, January 4, 1788

 

Here is where the liberals are complete and utter morons.  This war on terrorism was thrust upon us and we must respond.  We did not choose to enter the war, but rather Osama Bin Laden cast the first stone.  If the liberals would get out of the political war and let our soldiers get the job done we will win this war on terror.  How they cannot see they are aiding the enemy is beyond me.

 

The prosperity of commerce is now perceived and acknowledged by all enlightened statesmen to be the most useful as well as the most productive source of national wealth, and has accordingly become a primary object of its political cares.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 12, November 27, 1787

 

Whoa!!  Don’t the liberals spout that the government must jump start our economy?  How wrong!!  The private sector will always outperform the government when given the chance.  The cold war proved just that.  USSR had the government running commerce while the USA had capitalism.  Who had more money?  Ahem...WE DID!  I sometimes wonder if the liberals believe the lies they spout from the podium while giving speeches. 

 

There is no part of the administration of government that requires extensive information and a thorough knowledge of the principles of political economy, so much as the business of taxation. The man who understands those principles best will be least likely to resort to oppressive expedients, or sacrifice any particular class of citizens to the procurement of revenue. It might be demonstrated that the most productive system of finance will always be the least burdensome.

Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 35, 1788

 

The sentence of the man who understands...etc. is a perfect example of what the libs are doing today.  Oppressive taxes and/or sacrificing the wealthy for procurement of revenue.  The flat tax or sales tax should be moved into effect as to avoid the exact things he says in this quote.  The most productive system is always least burdensome.  Libs: can you believe the blasphemy!  Our government has lost all accountability for finances and we will continue to spiral downward until they start changing their spending habits.

Ive went through a couple hundred quotes finding ones that apply to what we are going through today.  Our economy, regulations, Foreign affairs, etc etc.  They are as conservative as ever!  I have tried splitting them up by who made the quote and not by topic.  This way I can make a brand new opinion on a quote in which was similar to one 3 parts back haha.  Have fun with this!  BTW, if anyone wants to find some quotes, I used Founding Father Quotes

"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other." - John Quincy Adams, 6th President of USA.

This is my favorite quote of all-time.  So why not do it first?  This basically goes against all the liberals are.  They are essentially anti-religious people.  Just take a look at what the ACLU has accomplished!  Morals are also relative for them.  I read Hal and others on here everyday saying just that.  The ends justify the means and everything goes.  This also shows why our government is starting to flounder so to say.  The constituents are no longer a moral or religious people and are electing as such.  Our representatives are acting as such in office and that is causing many problems.

"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing" - Edmund Burke 1729-1797

This one applies more to foreign affairs than anything today, though it applies to the average conservative as well.  First domestically:  The average joe has to get out and educate themselves to vote this election.  Most every issue that was voted on in 2004 and 2006 was voted on conservatively.  Why is that?  Though they believe in conservative values, people are being brainwashed into thinking liberals will do what they say.  Liberals are all talk, just look at universal healthcare...sure it sounds good until the IRS comes to take a little extra for your lazy neighbor to get healthcare.  The average person must educate themselves this election and start voting for the people that will ACTUALLY move this country in the right direction.  Foreign:  Liberals are up to letting Iran do what they want along with leaving Iraq, Ignoring North Korea etc etc.  We must act now before the terrorists gain enough power to create WW3.  Iran will not stop producing nuclear weapons and North Korea knows we are weak politically.  We must make a stand!

"...There is no nation on earth powerful enough to accomplish our overthrow. ... Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing." - Daniel Webster, June 1, 1837

Well, the media does do a good job scrutinizing our politicians.  They must do it unbiased way to get the full truth out to the people.  This quote in a way goes back to the previous quote.  People are voting for a person because they have Charisma or are good at speaking.  I worry more about what was said!  College students are out in droves voting for Obama and they have no clue why!  Voters are not educating themselves and simply vote for what feels good much of the time.  I would put that under the negligence mentioned above. 

I am not a Virginian, but an American.
Patrick Henry, speech in the First Continental Congress, September 6, 1774

I am putting this one in here for all the hyphenated Americans.  At that time in history people were more proud of their state than their nation.  People now are more proud of being an African-American, or Asian-American or Indian-American than being an American.  I have decided personally to not call anyone by a hyphenated name unless they were born there.  People must be firstly proud to be an American.

There! His Majesty can now read my name without glasses. And he can double the reward on my head!
John Hancock, upon signing the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776

I just had to throw this one in.  This shows how the founding fathers sacrificed for this country.  Most all of them were very wealthy people.  George Washington (with modified scaling of the dollar) was the richest president we have had.  He could have quelled the public outcry and lived out his life in peace, but he wanted the best for this country!  Our politicians are not of that type anymore.  They will do anything to stay in power no matter how it hurts the average American.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves money from the public treasure. From that moment on the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most money from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's great civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence: from bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, from dependency back to bondage." Alexander Tyler (A Scottish professor)  1897

I have posted this up in another thread.  It is amazing how accurate this is accounting for us.  faith to being with...courage during the late to mid 1800s...liberty after the civil war building up...abundance of the 20's...selfish 60's....to the apathy of now and moving to dependence on the government with the current presidential candidates.  We are not a straight democracy, but it does apply to our country.

If, from the more wretched parts of the old world, we look at those which are in an advanced stage of improvement, we still find the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry, and grasping the spoil of the multitude. Invention is continually exercised, to furnish new pretenses for revenues and taxation. It watches prosperity as its prey and permits none to escape without tribute.
Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791

This describes the liberals of today perfectly.  They are always finding a new way to take our money (for the children right?).  Our government has become a greedy government of which the founding fathers were decisively against.  They gave the federal government very few powers for that exact reason.  The government is always punishing "big business" saying its for the little person.  Our country's industry only became the worlds most powerful during WW2 because of big business.  Our regulations on the big businesses are forcing them to leave to make a profit and many of them have moved to Asia.  This will only continue until our government removes internal regulations on US businesses.  As they leave it removes the jobs for Americans.  So while what is left they may make slightly more, many more Americans make much less or are out of work because of the laws.  Big businesses that do stay will always pass the cost onto the consumer.  Raising say the minimum wage will only make costs go up and the person making the new minimum wage will be able to buy nothing more, while the person making say $10 will be able to buy less.

For myself the delay [in assuming the office of the President] may be compared with a reprieve; for in confidence I assure you, with the world it would obtain little credit that my movements to the chair of Government will be accompanied by feelings not unlike those of a culprit who is going to the place of his execution: so unwilling am I, in the evening of a life nearly consumed in public cares, to quit a peaceful abode for an Ocean of difficulties, without that competency of political skill, abilities and inclination which is necessary to manage the helm.
George Washington, comment to General Henry Knox, March 1789

This is why he was such a great leader.  He didn't crave for power but had power forced upon him.  He had the interests of the people and not his personally gain at heart.  It is too bad we cannot have people of this character in office now because to get into office you must want to be there.  If only...

If we desire to insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War.
George Washington, Annual Message, December 1793

This is why we must be able to act towards all terrorist country's with the utmost vigor.  If they know we will come after them for messing with us, they will not threaten us or our people.  They know their will be consequences for their actions.  As of today they know if they just hinder us enough our media will destroy us politically and then they have won.  We need a sense of American political strength around the world putting fear in the hearts of the enemy.

My anxious recollections, my sympathetic feeling, and my best wishes are irresistibly excited whensoever, in any country, I see an oppressed nation unfurl the banners of freedom.
George Washington, letter to Pierre Auguste Adet, January 1, 1796

This, was just a good quote I wanted to throw in. 

I hope to be able to put up another this weekend, if not it will probably be next weekend before I get part 2 up.

I am going to start a short collection of quotes from our founding fathers...I will input some writings too of course, or it wouldn't be my work.  I just wanted to let anyone know that just happened to check in.  Look for me to have at least one up this Sunday.

I have decided I would like to make my blog an open discussion in a way.  I will write on what the people want me to!  Of course I will have my own as well.  Anything you have thought you would like to research and would like to see written on by a true conservative(haha) post a comment here and Ill do my best to get it up on my blog.

An overview of it can be found here: Foreign use so far.


Why should the highest court in the land be using a source, of their decisions on whether something is constitutional or not, other than the constitution!  Does anyone find this unnerving?  How long is it going to take until they find a way to make a major change here which directly obscures the meaning of the constitution while using a foreign source for the meaning? 

So far foreign laws have not influenced the SCOTUS on any decisions which affect the population by and large.
Here is a link:Second Amendment? which forms a possible situation in which the SCOTUS could rule on the second amendment using foreign law.  Granted this has not happened as of now, but what is stopping them from making a decision based on their opinions rather than the law when they can draw from anywhere?  If a judge does not like the way our constitution forms the law, then look elsewhere right:? Wrong!  This has to stop and stop soon.  We need to get some representatives that will bring this issue to the people! 

Our founding fathers believed many laws outside the US to be wrong and inferior to our laws.  Why should we now use their laws to form a basis for decisions in our country!  The constitution of the United States is possibly the best written document constitution to ever graze this earth!  You would think that would be enough for our judges.

EDIT ADDITION!!! 

Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence.
Alexander Hamilton, Pacificus, No. 6, July 17, 1793

Just thought I would throw out our founding father Alexander Hamilton's input on the issue.